Why I Chose S Corp Over LLC (Part 4): Compliance Requirements

After discussing the tax implications and registration and maintenance costs that one needs to consider when choosing an ownership structure, we now explore the efforts needed to stay in compliance with regulations for an S Corp and an LLC.

Limited Liability Company (LLC)

Articles of Organization

Because an LLC is treated as a separate entity, forming an LLC also requires the filing of an Articles of Organization (or Certificates of Organization in some states). This is the equivalent of a corporation’s Articles of Incorporation. As mentioned in my previous post, preparing the Articles of Organization is a breeze compared to preparing the Articles of Incorporation because you simply need to fill out a one-page form. You will need to have answers for the following to fill out the form:

  1. Name of LLC
  2. Registered agent
  3. Address of individual registered agent
  4. How many members will be managing the LLC
  5. Your name as organizer

Operating Agreement

Although an Operating Agreement is not required to form an LLC, it is highly recommended to protect your partners’ and your interests. Some of the basic information included in an Operating Ageement records members’ percentage of interests in the business, voting power and rights and responsibilities in day-to-day operations. This is also a good place to document who will be managing the LLC. Depending on your agreement with your partners, you may decide to divvy up profits in a manner disproportionate to ownership interests. Note such important decisions here as well to avoid future disputes. There are some very difficult questions that you need to address because these questions are typically not things you would consider especially when everything seems to be perfect when you are just forming an LLC. Examples of these questions are “What happens when a member decides to leave the LLC?”, “Will the member be compensated for giving up his ownership interest?” and “What happens when a member dies?” You will need to talk this through with your partners now before these scenarios happen because when they do they have a tendency to end up in court and destroy decades worth of friendship.

S Corporation

Because an S Corporation is simply a corporation with a different tax structure, an S Corp must satisfy all compliance requirements as demanded of its brethren.

Annual Shareholders Meetings

Before you can start running your business, the first step after you have filed your Articles of Incorporation is to hold your first annual shareholders meeting to elect the directors of your corporation. The meeting minutes and the voting decisions made in the meeting must be recorded. Templates for meeting minutes are freely and readily available on the Internet.

Initial Board Meeting

Immediately following the initial shareholders’ meeting, the directors will hold the initial board meeting. In this meeting, the board of directors will nominate the officers of the company. Again, the decisions must be recorded in detail.

Corporate Bylaws

Next you will need to prepare the Corporate Bylaws, much like the Operating Agreement of an LLC, detailing the rules governing the operation of the business. You do not need to file this document with the state, but you will need to keep it in your records for whenever a shareholder demands to review the bylaws.

Stock Issuance

To prove your ownership interest in the corporation, you will need to issue stock certificates to each shareholder. You don’t need a fancy, forgery-proof certificate. Just make sure it is signed by the officers and well documented (i.e. record the amount of capital contributed in exchange for the shares).

Resolutions

Any major decisions in a corporation such as opening a bank account, entering into a revolving credit agreement, and purchase and sale or major assets, mergers and acquisitions and dissolution must be recorded in detail.

Comparing an LLC to an S Corp

Compared to an LLC, the formality requirements for an S Corporation can be overwhelming. However, these paperwork requirements also force you to treat your business like one. When creditors, lawyers and IRS scrutinize your records, you will be grateful that you have everything in written order. It’s no longer just your words against theirs. I don’t enjoy doing all the paperwork, but since I lack discipline, I need rules to help keep me organized. After considering the pros and cons based on the articles in this series, I convinced myself to go with an S corporation. To paraphrase Warren Buffett, “I’m very good at convincing myself.”

8 Comments

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Hi Ye! Thank you for your postings. It’s been very informative. I too am in Cali. I cannot decide between the S Corp and LLC. What is the biggest nail biter is the $800 annual Franchise tax for LLCs. I’m just a start-up making chocolate and I don’t forsee making any more in the first few years. The reason why I like the LLC is because you can have a foreign partner whereas all shareholders in S Corps must be US citizens and maybe residents. My future foreign partner and I have decided not to form the LLC together for the 1st year because of legal costs and other cumbersome paperwork so I would file as a single member LLC. Given all that, I know you aren’t a lawyer, but with the knowledge that you have, do you think that the LLC is the best way to go, even though the $800 is quite steep for such a small business like me? Thanks so much!

chocolate added these pithy words on July 17, 2008

Chocolate, glad you find them useful. I don’t think you have much of a choice since you are going to have a non-US resident partner. If you are thinking about setting up an S Corp first, then convert to an LLC later so your partner could join the company, there is still a conversion cost involved. I don’t know much about conversion but there are attorney fees, business name change (from business cards to bank accounts to agreements, not sure if these are necessary) and, not to mention, your time to think about.

Ye added these pithy words on July 17, 2008

cool! Thanks so much! You’ve confirmed the inevitable. Look forward to your posts as your company grows. So I took a look at IncBaby, does IncBaby mostly work w/ large companies to build websites?

chocolate added these pithy words on July 18, 2008

Qovax work with companies of all sizes. Keep in touch. I’d love to know how your chocolate venture turned out. Best of luck!

Ye added these pithy words on July 19, 2008

Question: In California, if a single member LLC is member managed, then doesn’t California consider that LLC a disregarded entity? I just read in another article that a disregarded entity does not provide limited liability for the single member/manager. One of these could not be right, ‘cause isn’t liability protection (aside from possible tax advantage) the whole point of forming a LLC in the first place? Your articles have been extremely helpful, but some of these others by other writers have readers going in loopty loops! Or, is what they are saying: actually true?

Ira added these pithy words on November 8, 2008

Ira, liability protection and tax entity are two different things. A single member LLC still provides limited liability protection as long as the state recognizes the entity. For tax purposes, the IRS doesn’t recognize LLCs. So, they consider an LLC a disregarded entity (note that this has no bearing on limited liability protection at the state level) unless you file Form 8832 to be taxed as a corporation or a partnership (http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=158625,00.html). The state of California treats LLC for tax purposes the same way (http://www.ftb.ca.gov/businesses/bus_structures/LLcompany.shtml). I think the other authors might be confused between disregarded entity at the federal level and limited liability protection at the state level.

Ye added these pithy words on November 8, 2008

Thank you so much, Ye. My wife and I look forward to starting up an LLC, whereas a separate entity in a different industry I look forward to growing as a corporation. After reading the articles you have posted with detailed information and insight, I am almost certain I will be registering it as a S corporation instead of as an LLC first then incorporating it later, but if someone chooses to incorporate as a S or C corporation, when there are several investors who will offer equity for stock shares, couldn’t the founder be voted out of a chairperson and/or CEO position if the owners/investors who desire to do such as thing own over 50% of the company’s shares? Is their another way to keep such a thing from happening besides the founder owning over 50% of the stock shares herself/himself? From what I’ve heard, usually investors seek stock shares. How can a founder attract investment while maintaining control of the company?

Ira added these pithy words on November 9, 2008

I don’t think there’s any way to override a more than 50% vote on ousting the CEO. You could, however, issue two classes of shares where you’d own Class A that has say 10 times as many votes per share as Class B shareholders. But then investors tend to avoid corporations with multi-class shares. I really don’t know enough to give you any useful advice regarding this. Whenever you’re taking money from investors, you really want to have a lawyer by your side. I’d try not to give away too much equity because every percentage is a slice of your future earnings. Otherwise, you’d just end up working for someone else.

Ye added these pithy words on November 10, 2008

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